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Excerpts from LDS.org:

Joseph Smith's Use of Seer Stones

 

 

 

[Ensign Magazine, July 1993]

 

A Treasured Testament

 

 

By Elder Russell M. Nelson

 

Of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles

 


 

Russell M. Nelson

 

Adapted from an address given 25 June 1992 at a seminar for new mission presidents, Missionary Training Center, Provo, Utah.

 

A Treasured Testament

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The details of this miraculous method of translation are still not fully known. Yet we do have a few precious insights. David Whitmer wrote:

 

Joseph Smith would put the seer stone into a hat, and put his face in the hat, drawing it closely around his face to exclude the light; and in the darkness the spiritual light would shine. A piece of something resembling parchment would appear, and on that appeared the writing. One character at a time would appear, and under it was the interpretation in English. Brother Joseph would read off the English to Oliver Cowdery, who was his principal scribe, and when it was written down and repeated to Brother Joseph to see if it was correct, then it would disappear, and another character with the interpretation would appear. Thus the Book of Mormon was translated by the gift and power of God, and not by any power of man.” (David Whitmer, An Address to All Believers in Christ, Richmond, Mo.: n.p., 1887, p. 12.)

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[Ensign Magazine, Jan. 2013]

 

Great and Marvelous Are the Revelations of God

 

BY GERRIT DIRKMAAT

 

Church History Department

 


 

 


Joseph Smith Received Revelations through the Power of God

Those who believed that Joseph Smith’s revelations contained the voice of the Lord speaking to them also accepted the miraculous ways in which the revelations were received. Some of the Prophet Joseph’s earliest revelations came through the same means by which he translated the Book of Mormon from the gold plates. In the stone box containing the gold plates, Joseph found what Book of Mormon prophets referred to as “interpreters,” or a “stone, which shall shine forth in darkness unto light” (Alma 37:23–24). He described the instrument as “spectacles” and referred to it using an Old Testament term, Urim and Thummim (see Exodus 28:30).

He also sometimes applied the term to other stones he possessed, called “seer stones” because they aided him in receiving revelations as a seer. The Prophet received some early revelations through the use of these seer stones. For example, shortly after Oliver Cowdery came to serve as a scribe for Joseph Smith as he translated the plates, Oliver and Joseph debated the meaning of a biblical passage and sought an answer through revelation. Joseph explained: “A difference of opinion arising between us about the account of John the Apostle … whether he died, or whether he continued; we mutually agreed to settle it by the Urim and Thummim.” In response, Joseph Smith received the revelation now known as section 7 of the Doctrine and Covenants, which informed them that Jesus had told the Apostle John, “Thou shalt tarry until I come in my glory” (D&C 7:3).

Records indicate that soon after the founding of the Church in 1830, the Prophet stopped using the seer stones as a regular means of receiving revelations. Instead, he dictated the revelations after inquiring of the Lord without employing an external instrument.


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[Ensign Magazine, Sept. 1977]

 

“By the Gift and Power of God”

BY RICHARD LLOYD ANDERSON

 

 


 

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The person who best reflects Martin Harris is probably Edward Stevenson, since he spent nearly two months with the Witness after going to Ohio to escort him back to Utah in 1870. On the means of translation Stevenson reported, “He said that the Prophet possessed a seer stone, by which he was enabled to translate as well as from the Urim and Thummim, and for convenience he then used the seer stone.

After Martin Harris lost the part of the translation done in 1828, Oliver Cowdery became chief scribe for the entire Book of Mormon as it is now printed. Toward the end of this new work of 1829, David Whitmer on occasion watched and afterwards spoke of the seer stone.

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[LDS.org retrieved July 2014]

 

Book of Mormon Translation

 

 

 

Joseph Smith and his scribes wrote of two instruments used in translating the Book of Mormon. According to witnesses of the translation, when Joseph looked into the instruments, the words of scripture appeared in English. One instrument, called in the Book of Mormon the “interpreters,” is better known to Latter-day Saints today as the “Urim and Thummim.” Joseph found the interpreters buried in the hill with the plates. Those who saw the interpreters described them as a clear pair of stones bound together with a metal rim. The Book of Mormon referred to this instrument, together with its breastplate, as a device “kept and preserved by the hand of the Lord” and “handed down from generation to generation, for the purpose of interpreting languages.”

 

The other instrument, which Joseph Smith discovered in the ground years before he retrieved the gold plates, was a small oval stone, or “seer stone.” As a young man during the 1820s, Joseph Smith, like others in his day, used a seer stone to look for lost objects and buried treasure. As Joseph grew to understand his prophetic calling, he learned that he could use this stone for the higher purpose of translating scripture.

 

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[Ensign Magazine, June 1994]

 

Highlights in the Prophet's Life

 

 


 

 


A time line of some key events in the life and ministry of Joseph Smith

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20 Mar. 1826: Tried and acquitted on fanciful charge of being a “disorderly person,” South Bainbridge, Chenango County, New York. New York law defined a disorderly person as, among other things, a vagrant or a seeker of “lost goods.” The Prophet had been accused of both: the first charge was false and was made simply to cause trouble; Joseph’s use of a seer stone to see things that others could not see with the naked eye brought the second charge. Those who brought the charges were apparently concerned that Joseph might bilk his employer, Josiah Stowell, out of some money. Mr. Stowell’s testimony clearly said this was not so and that he trusted Joseph Smith. 1

 

 

Seeing that the above quote contains the following corresponding endnote reference:

 

1 Gordon A. Madsen, “Joseph Smith’s 1826 Trial: The Legal Setting,” Brigham Young University Studies, Spring 1990, p. 93.

 

Let's turn to Madsen's work to see what he wrote about Stowell's testimony:

 

"The pivotal testimony, in my view, was that of Josiah Stowell. ... 'that he positively knew that the prisoner [Joseph Smith] could tell and professed the art of seeing those valuable treasures through the medium of said stone.'" (Joseph Smith's 1826 Trial: The Legal Setting, BYU Studies, p. 105)

 

 

 

 


 

 

LDS (Mormon) Series:

■  The Book of Mormon

■  Joseph Smith's First Vision

■  Joseph Smith on Trial

■  Those Mysterious Golden Plates

■  The Fall of Mormonism

■  Book of Moses Changes/Anachronisms

■  Another Testament of Jesus Christ <(Doctrine of the Priesthood refuted)

■  What to say to Mormons at the door

■  Preach My Gospel — A Guide to Missionary Service 

■  Family Home Evening Lesson 1

■  Enchantment — Magic and Money Digging

 


 

Sub-Pages in the LDS (Mormon) Series

 

1. Joseph Smith has "got the plates?"
2. Joseph Smith Money Digging Accounts: 

●  Joseph Smith Money Digging Accounts (Main Page)
●  Willard Chase Account of the Gold Plates
●  Fayette Lapham Account of the Gold Plates
●  Peter Ingersoll Account of Smith's Money Digging History
●  The Amboy Journal < Bleeding Ghost Account
●  Interview with Martin Harris in Tiffany's Monthly 1859

3. Joseph Smith 1826 Glass Looking Trial Testimonies / Records: 

1826 Trial Testimonies (Main Page)
A. W. Benton Account
Bishop Tuttle Account
W. D. Purple Account
New Evidence and New Difficulties
Bill of Justice
LDS Accounts
Articles of Agreement

4. Joseph Smith First Vision Accounts: 

First Vision Accounts (Main Page)
1823 Bedroom Vision/Dream Accounts (eighteen accounts from the 1820s—1840s...)
Bedroom vision account — "Official version" (Extracts from the History of Joseph Smith, the Prophet)
Joseph Smith's First Vision was unknown LDS statements
(1832) Joseph Smith's hand written account of the First Vision (Photo)
(1834-35) Joseph Smith's first published vision (which contains elements of the 1838 LDS "Official" First Vision story)
(1842) Joseph Smith's Sacred Grove Account — "Official LDS First Vision Account" — also found in Smith's 1838 History 

5. The Angel and the Gold Plates
6. Cumorah's Cave - Cameron J. Packer
7. Joseph Knight’s Recollection of Early Mormon History
8. Book of Mormon Printing Arrangements and History
9. The Trouble With Martin Harris (mean spirited quotes about Martin Harris taken mostly from LDS source material)
10. Introduction — Richard Bushman

 

International Articles:

11. Disturbing Early Versions of The Golden Plates Accounts

12. LDS Priesthood Lie / Myth

13. Joseph Smith Lied when he said he only had one wife

14. Was Joseph Smith a Fraud / Con man?

15. Joseph Smith — The Great Pretender?